Comments on: Virtue, or virtuoso http://blogs.law.stanford.edu/lawandbiosciences/2009/04/27/virtue-virtuoso/ Wed, 15 May 2013 21:56:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: lawandbiosciences http://blogs.law.stanford.edu/lawandbiosciences/2009/04/27/virtue-virtuoso/comment-page-1/#comment-74 lawandbiosciences Mon, 11 May 2009 16:33:28 +0000 http://lawandbiosciences.wordpress.com/?p=490#comment-74 Hello Amanda. Thanks for your comment. Also, many thanks for the fyi on the Fred Friendly Seminar and Art Singer's work. I look forward to seeing the film and learning more about these developments around consent. Cheers! - Teneille Hello Amanda. Thanks for your comment. Also, many thanks for the fyi on the Fred Friendly Seminar and Art Singer’s work. I look forward to seeing the film and learning more about these developments around consent. Cheers! – Teneille

]]> By: amandapustilnik http://blogs.law.stanford.edu/lawandbiosciences/2009/04/27/virtue-virtuoso/comment-page-1/#comment-73 amandapustilnik Mon, 11 May 2009 14:57:59 +0000 http://lawandbiosciences.wordpress.com/?p=490#comment-73 Great post; sensitive, nuanced, and very timely. Art Singer, the past president of the Sloan Foundation, has been active in this area. And, a Fred Friendly Seminar recently has been filmed (and will be aired next year) on revising standards of consent to move away from the emphasis on dangerousness to others - and more on the notion of potential long-term harm to self. The idea of "harm to self" should be expanded - carefully - beyond the notion of immediate, violent harm. Great post; sensitive, nuanced, and very timely.

Art Singer, the past president of the Sloan Foundation, has been active in this area.

And, a Fred Friendly Seminar recently has been filmed (and will be aired next year) on revising standards of consent to move away from the emphasis on dangerousness to others – and more on the notion of potential long-term harm to self.

The idea of “harm to self” should be expanded – carefully – beyond the notion of immediate, violent harm.

]]> By: cheyb29 http://blogs.law.stanford.edu/lawandbiosciences/2009/04/27/virtue-virtuoso/comment-page-1/#comment-72 cheyb29 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:10:44 +0000 http://lawandbiosciences.wordpress.com/?p=490#comment-72 I love the consent discussion. It sounds like this film raised many ethical questions. I don't think you mentioned that if a medical team proceeds without consent (or against consent) they can be charged with battery. Competence is a legal term to be determined by a judge. It is often used interchangeably with capacity. Decision making capacity is something that a medical professional can determine. Even someone who is incompetent legally may have capacity for some medical decisions. And vice versa, someone who is legally competent may not have capacity for decisions. Capacity must be determined for each decision. Someone can be capable of making some decisions and not others, even in the same hospital stay. If someone is at risk for harming themselves or others, they can be held without consent. California's 5150 is called a Blue Sheet in Utah. http://le.utah.gov/~code/TITLE62A/htm/62A15_062900.htm I love the consent discussion. It sounds like this film raised many ethical questions.
I don’t think you mentioned that if a medical team proceeds without consent (or against consent) they can be charged with battery. Competence is a legal term to be determined by a judge. It is often used interchangeably with capacity. Decision making capacity is
something that a medical professional can determine. Even someone who is
incompetent legally may have capacity for some medical decisions. And vice versa, someone who is legally competent may not have capacity for decisions. Capacity must be determined for each decision. Someone can be capable of making some decisions and not others, even in the same hospital stay.
If someone is at risk for harming themselves or others, they can be held without consent. California’s 5150 is called a Blue Sheet in Utah.

http://le.utah.gov/~code/TITLE62A/htm/62A15_062900.htm

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